Noem joins House in reversal on payroll tax cut

2011-12-22T16:08:00Z 2011-12-22T19:24:52Z Noem joins House in reversal on payroll tax cutKevin Woster Journal staff Rapid City Journal
December 22, 2011 4:08 pm  • 

In a sudden change of position, Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives agreed on Thursday to support a short-term extension of the Social Security payroll-tax cut and federal unemployment benefits.

The reversal came two days after the Republican-controlled House rebuked the two-month extension approved by the Democrat-controlled Senate on Saturday. House members were immediately hit by heavy criticism from the congressional Democrats, President Barack Obama and other sources, including the conservative Wall Street Journal, which said in an editorial that the GOP had managed to "lose the tax issue to Obama."

Republicans tried to regain ground on tax policy Thursday, with support from U.S. Rep. Kristi Noem, R-S.D., who joined the Republican majority in accepting the two-month compromise that she and others rejected two days earlier.

Noem told the Journal Thursday that she was willing to accept the short-term extension now because the compromise came with an agreement from Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada to appoint a conference committee in the Senate to begin work on a longer extension of the payroll tax cut. That deal also would include work on provisions to pay for the reduced tax revenue and avoid worsening the national debt, Noem said.

"I'm comfortable with that," she said. "I think that shows willingness by the Senate to do a full year and work out the pay-fors and everything in the meantime."

The House move appears to all but assure that 160 million workers won't be hit by a 2-percentage-point increase in the payroll tax on Jan. 1. It would also renew jobless benefits for almost 2 million people who have been without jobs for more than six months. And it would spare doctors from a cut in Medicare payments.

Noem represented freshman Republican House members in discussing a potential agreement in a GOP leadership telephone meeting earlier Thursday. After the meeting, she said she was hopeful a deal could be made to avoid the Jan. 1 tax hike. Shortly after that, word came out of Washington that it was done.

The agreement came after urging from Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, who had worked out the Senate deal earlier with the Democrat leader Reid. Part of that Senate deal involved Reid's concession to allow provisions to force the U.S. State Department and Obama to make a decision within 60 days on the controversial Keystone XL Pipeline.

Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., said the Keystone provisions were important to getting his support for the compromise. He said early Thursday afternoon that he hoped House Republicans would accept the short-term tax-cut extension until both bodies could shape a longer extension, which would be needed before the two-month deal expires.

"I think McConnell is offering a good deal," Thune said.

The Associated Press contributed to this story.

Contact Kevin Woster at 394-8413 or kevin.woster@rapidcityjournal.com

 

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  1. tacollection
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    tacollection - December 29, 2011 8:28 pm
    This is why I vote Independant and not by the parties...didnt vote for her,and didnt vote for Obama! Come on everybody,give it a try next time so eventually we can get it right! Jacie....um how many additional trillions of dollars are we in debt now and from who? That wasnt accumulated from the war,that was a rediculous loan we'll never have the money to repay.
    If we would have taken a 1 trillion loan when Jesus was born,we still wouldnt have paid it off.Times that by how many with Obama and really think we're ever going to pay it off in our grandkids,grandkids,grandkids,grandkids lifetime..I dont think so! Do some research on that for me would ya!
  2. NoUseForNeoCons
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    NoUseForNeoCons - December 27, 2011 9:28 pm

    Progstopper said: "NoUse - "Oh, I forgot. The National debt has always been zero and the budget balanced when Republicans were in control. It is always those pesky Democrats who like earmarks and want to bring the pork home. Going to have to take the U.S. Treasury department to task for not having their numbers straight."Come on NoUse try to keep up here. What other president pushed a nearly Trillion dollar stimulus Bill that created almost ZERO perminent jobs? In the midst of running up the debt faster than any president in history? I will give you a clue OBAMA...That my man is called trying to spend out way out of debt. Come on man we are not going so fast here that you should be able to keep up."


    The answer one would expect from a Regressive. Didn`t address anything I said in my post, but rather went off on some different tangent to try and divert attention away from the subject at hand. I can keep up with anything you throw out there, if you would only once attempt to have a serious discussion and not just throw out right wing talking points. Try and think for yourself.
  3. archiejones
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    archiejones - December 27, 2011 6:36 pm
    Progstopper said: "NoUse - "Oh, I forgot. The National debt has always been zero and the budget balanced when Republicans were in control. It is always those pesky Democrats who like earmarks and want to bring the pork home. Going to have to take the U.S. Treasury department to task for not having their numbers straight."Come on NoUse try to keep up here. What other president pushed a nearly Trillion dollar stimulus Bill that created almost ZERO perminent jobs? In the midst of running up the debt faster than any president in history? I will give you a clue OBAMA...That my man is called trying to spend out way out of debt. Come on man we are not going so fast here that you should be able to keep up."

    You really need to find a new source for your news there proggy, you might try one that reports the facts not just the teapub propoganda!
  4. sledogpilot
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    sledogpilot - December 27, 2011 10:34 am
    Prog, don't forget the massive omnibus spending bill of 09- which didn't help the economy either.
  5. Progstopper
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    Progstopper - December 27, 2011 7:36 am
    NoUse - "Oh, I forgot. The National debt has always been zero and the budget balanced when Republicans were in control. It is always those pesky Democrats who like earmarks and want to bring the pork home. Going to have to take the U.S. Treasury department to task for not having their numbers straight."

    Come on NoUse try to keep up here. What other president pushed a nearly Trillion dollar stimulus Bill that created almost ZERO perminent jobs? In the midst of running up the debt faster than any president in history? I will give you a clue OBAMA...That my man is called trying to spend out way out of debt. Come on man we are not going so fast here that you should be able to keep up.
  6. Progstopper
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    Progstopper - December 27, 2011 7:32 am
    archiejones - "Sorry proggy but it was not a compromise, it was caving to the demands of the public."

    So the public prefered a 2 month extension instead of a 12 month extension? What Public do you run with archie? It sure isn't the same public that is out there in the real world.
  7. sledogpilot
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    sledogpilot - December 25, 2011 10:33 pm
    Deklan is one of the few here who recognizes the "rob Peter to pay Paul" aspect of this and the difference between "deficit" and "debt".
    If this is such a good thing, lets just completely quit payroll tax for social security and medicare. I'm sure China will just buy more sketchy U.S. government bonds.
  8. catman
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    catman - December 24, 2011 8:13 am
    Realizing you're wrong is not the same thing as compromising.
  9. archiejones
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    archiejones - December 23, 2011 6:54 pm
    Progstopper said: "catman - "Hey progstopper, you should compare that to my comment that you tried to belittle on the article about Kristi and others not voting for this 2 month extension. You will notice a striking similarity between my comment and the logic used by the republicans in this decision. Those "pubs" are just all over the board aren't they?"It was called compromise. Something the dems need to learn the meaning of. I guess the repubs thought 2 months are better than 12 if 12 months were out of the question for the "serve special interest" democrats. The repubs knew that the "spend our way out of debt" democtats have no concept of number, and just did the best they could with the people they had to deal with. "

    Sorry proggy but it was not a compromise, it was caving to the demands of the public.
  10. NoUseForNeoCons
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    NoUseForNeoCons - December 23, 2011 5:21 pm
    "Sometimes it`s hard to do the right thing, and sometimes it`s politically difficult to do the right thing".

    Speaks volumes about the radical right. Should be their motto at their convention next summer.
  11. NoUseForNeoCons
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    NoUseForNeoCons - December 23, 2011 5:06 pm
    ..... "spend our way out of debt" democrats.....

    Oh, I forgot. The National debt has always been zero and the budget balanced when Republicans were in control. It is always those pesky Democrats who like earmarks and want to bring the pork home. Going to have to take the U.S. Treasury department to task for not having their numbers straight.
  12. Progstopper
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    Progstopper - December 23, 2011 2:59 pm
    catman - "Hey progstopper, you should compare that to my comment that you tried to belittle on the article about Kristi and others not voting for this 2 month extension. You will notice a striking similarity between my comment and the logic used by the republicans in this decision. Those "pubs" are just all over the board aren't they?"

    It was called compromise. Something the dems need to learn the meaning of. I guess the repubs thought 2 months are better than 12 if 12 months were out of the question for the "serve special interest" democrats. The repubs knew that the "spend our way out of debt" democtats have no concept of number, and just did the best they could with the people they had to deal with.
  13. Progstopper
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    Progstopper - December 23, 2011 2:53 pm
    CCsour - "What a crock!! The Senate does not reconvene till 23 January so they will have less then 30 days to fix this problem! Meanwhile small business will struggle thru the Christmas Holidays trying to figure out how and what to pay their employess so that the IRS does not come to town and fine them. The real workers will miss Christmas joy as they struggle with what kind of mess the government is going to come up with next."

    The problem is the spend our way out of debt democrats can't count. They think 2 is a larger number than 12. Well I guess they will learn in november when the repubs out number them after the election and they lose the house, senate, and whitehouse. Oh wait was that a racist remark???

  14. Progstopper
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    Progstopper - December 23, 2011 2:49 pm
    archiejones - "NOem and the teapubs have crumbled, Obama has won, and 200 million Americans can now enjoy a Merry Christmas."


    archie you forgot to finish your sentence. You should of went on to say "and 200 million Americans can now enjoy a Merry Christmas for only two months instead of 12 thanks to the democrats that are short sighted."
  15. GL
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    GL - December 23, 2011 10:17 am
    Noem said: I'm comfortable with that," she said. "I think that shows willingness by the Senate to do a full year and work out the pay-fors and everything in the meantime."

    What a bunch of bunk! The senate dems and Obama were for a full year extension all along but the repubs added poison pills to make it fail. Only then did they draft the two month compromise bill. The tea party has co-opted the democratic process and is dragging our country down...I want my country back!
  16. oldsarge
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    oldsarge - December 23, 2011 9:50 am
    Slowly, very slowly...but very very sure, the ones on the right continue to dig their grave. Strange how obvious it is to everyone but them. The 113th congress will be controlled by the democrats thanks to the tea potters.
  17. Factsonly
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    Factsonly - December 23, 2011 9:41 am
    It's time to think and do so quickly as the facts are clear to many -- those who drink the conservative tea will help save our great land and those who drink the current brew in Washington better prepare themselves for some hard times as our current government is spending everything we have and everything we should be leaving for the next generations. We are quickly losing our grasp on keeping the doors of this great land open. Kristi and the cadre of dreamers she is standing with are taking the higher road in all of this. She and her fellow visionaries will help save our country, and those who are not thinking ahead are building gateways for our enemies abroad. It is that series, and we Americans must come together to support representatives that are working to ensure our nation survives.
  18. badhand
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    badhand - December 23, 2011 9:32 am
    What were you voters who voted her in thinking when you put her in power? The Republican party of this state cares nothing about the working man or woman of this state. They care only about business owners. They the Republicans would have every hourly worker earning two dollars an hour with no benefits if they could get away with it. Employees for most business owners in this state are not considered of real value. The only laws that protect employees rights are the ones granted to you by the Federal government. If you get rid of the Federal Government as the Republicans want you as an hourly worker you will have no rights at all.
  19. Carolina
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    Carolina - December 23, 2011 9:15 am
    Factsonly said: "The government should focus on resolving larger long term issues like survival of our American prosperity and not on short term issues focused on those popular small gestures that really won't matter in 5 to 10 years. We need a party and a leader that strive to prepare us with the best balance of national security and financial longevity possible. We need a real government of the people, and we all need to relax, sip a cup of tea, and ponder much bigger things than worry about a few hundred dollars in taxes. A little bit of hard work and dedication will provide an ethic and drive in each of us, and we can use this to support our country instead of relying on the country to support us. Kristi and the current administration are on different paths. And remeber -- she is the forward thinking one." She's the forward thinking one all right. She's thinking about whether she'll be in that group of tea partyers that goes bye-bye next election.

  20. Wolfy
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    Wolfy - December 23, 2011 8:45 am
    "Mr. Speaker, Noem from South Dakota is on the line for you. She wants to know how to vote". "Well, she knows the rules, whichever way I vote, she votes. Oh, and tell her she's been doing a good job".
  21. catman
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    catman - December 23, 2011 8:32 am
    The republicans decided that it was better to extend the tax cuts by 2 months so that they can figure out a long term strategy during that time rather than letting the tax cuts expire all together. Finally, logic. Hey progstopper, you should compare that to my comment that you tried to belittle on the article about Kristi and others not voting for this 2 month extension. You will notice a striking similarity between my comment and the logic used by the republicans in this decision. Those "pubs" are just all over the board aren't they?
  22. Bull
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    Bull - December 23, 2011 8:19 am
    Flip flop Krissy where are the jobs?
  23. dadooz
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    dadooz - December 23, 2011 8:19 am
    But...but...but, Kristi, I thought "tax cuts pay for themselves." Oh, except for the middle class? Thanx for Nut'n Honey!
  24. Micah68
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    Micah68 - December 23, 2011 7:43 am
    Disappointed in this. This President and this Congress do not know how to communicate with each other. This vote is another slap in the face of those people depending on Social Security being there when they retire.
  25. emanuel_r
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    emanuel_r - December 23, 2011 1:47 am
    Why am I not surprised?
  26. Deklan
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    Deklan - December 22, 2011 11:30 pm
    Social Security ran a $37 billion deficit last year, and the CBO reported it will run a $45 billion deficit in 2011, and it will continue to run deficits totaling $547 billion over the coming decade.

    The federal government is taking the Social Security shortfall out of general revenues which adds to the yearly deficit.

    There is a valid point on finding provisions to pay for Social Security’s reduced tax revenues.
  27. Eggman
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    Eggman - December 22, 2011 9:11 pm
    What??? It's can't be!!! Krissy changing her mind? Oh that's right, she is told how to vote. One day this way the next that way, and both with fervent determination.....bet she's wearing....you guessed it...flip flops...Ahem....
  28. CCsour
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    CCsour - December 22, 2011 8:35 pm
    What a crock!! The Senate does not reconvene till 23 January so they will have less then 30 days to fix this problem! Meanwhile small business will struggle thru the Christmas Holidays trying to figure out how and what to pay their employess so that the IRS does not come to town and fine them. The real workers will miss Christmas joy as they struggle with what kind of mess the government is going to come up with next. Only Obama rejoices as he furthers his goal to convert the USA to a socialist country soon to follow all the other countrys that belive they can keep taking from the working class and giving to the welfare class. I feel so sorry for my grandchildern they will never know the real freedom of liberty and happiness that we enjoyed twenty years ago. They will soon know the drudery of the Chinese and North Koreans!
  29. jacie
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    jacie - December 22, 2011 8:29 pm
    Factsonly said on: December 22, 2011, 6:32 pm
    '....Kristi and the current administration are on different paths. And remeber -- she is the forward thinking one.'

    Kristi is the one who is working for her special interests; she is concerned about 'dust' while there are more pressing matters. As for the Obama/Biden administration, they are cleaning up the mess from the Bush/Cheney years.

    Remember on election day who put this country in the financial stress it is now in, GOP/Bush/Cheney. We can thank them for getting us into 2 wars and spending obscene amounts of our money in doing so. Time for Kristi to end her short political career. Obama/Biden are showing that they have the fortitude to turn this country around, away from the mistakes they inherited.


  30. Infidel
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    Infidel - December 22, 2011 8:10 pm
    She's a team player, that's for sure. The Republican team, not the South Dakota team.
  31. Scott Peterson
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    Scott Peterson - December 22, 2011 7:27 pm
    I don't think these folks should take up poker; then don't seem to know when to bluff.
  32. steorilak
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    steorilak - December 22, 2011 7:27 pm
    Just more political mumbo jumbo....don't they know we are sick of it.....vote them all out.
  33. archiejones
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    archiejones - December 22, 2011 7:10 pm
    You can bet boehner is crying in his beer tonight!
  34. archiejones
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    archiejones - December 22, 2011 7:03 pm
    The unnecessary battle over the payroll tax cut extension has allowed Obama to define himself and demonstrate that he is on the side of working Americans. This is a complete and comprehensive victory for the president that allows him to keep building momentum as he heads into 2012.

    NOem and the teapubs have crumbled, Obama has won, and 200 million Americans can now enjoy a Merry Christmas.
  35. Factsonly
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    Factsonly - December 22, 2011 6:32 pm
    The government should focus on resolving larger long term issues like survival of our American prosperity and not on short term issues focused on those popular small gestures that really won't matter in 5 to 10 years. We need a party and a leader that strive to prepare us with the best balance of national security and financial longevity possible. We need a real government of the people, and we all need to relax, sip a cup of tea, and ponder much bigger things than worry about a few hundred dollars in taxes. A little bit of hard work and dedication will provide an ethic and drive in each of us, and we can use this to support our country instead of relying on the country to support us. Kristi and the current administration are on different paths. And remeber -- she is the forward thinking one.
  36. DisneyFan
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    DisneyFan - December 22, 2011 6:29 pm
    So, Ms Noem was against it before she was for it before she was against it. People, PLEASE don't have short memories on this. The Repubs have ALWAYS been against a year long extension of this. Always! Do not listen to the spin. I also find it so dishonest to try to appear as "stewards" of how tax money is spent, yet, they didn't even question how the Bush tax cuts (the extension they fought for and the Dems capitulated to last year) were going to get paid for.

    Enough is enough! I understand why the rich vote for the Republicans. But why the rest of the everyday folk want to vote for them and against their best interests? I'll never figure out!
  37. dadooz
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    dadooz - December 22, 2011 6:18 pm
    Dance faster, Kristi! Dance faster! Your credibility is showing!
  38. 196thlightinfantry
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    196thlightinfantry - December 22, 2011 6:08 pm
    Good deal, by doing it this way, South Dakota got to have a litte more sunshine as our cloudy representative stayed away. Time for her and her playmates to find a job and leave Washington's work for adults. I am thinking that John Boehner may be in the hunt for a new position as he and Cantor have worn this one out.
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    - December 22, 2011 5:45 pm
    Shame and derision.

    Even the Republicans in the Senate called the house Republicans "idiots" on this, re: McCain tweet saying the Wall Street Journal was spot on.

    The ultra far right "no compromise on anything ever crowd" are annoying me.
  40. Centerfield
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    Centerfield - December 22, 2011 5:02 pm
    Glad this was finally worked out. However, the whole episode was just another reminder that the GOP isn't focused on serving the people!
  41. tipimakr
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    tipimakr - December 22, 2011 4:57 pm
    Yeah...right!
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