Noem votes yes as House passes debt limit deal

2011-08-01T17:51:00Z 2011-08-01T23:26:36Z Noem votes yes as House passes debt limit dealBy David Montgomery Journal staff Rapid City Journal
August 01, 2011 5:51 pm  • 

The U.S. House of Representatives passed a measure Monday to raise the country's debt limit and cut spending.

Rep. Kristi Noem, R-S.D., voted for the measure, which passed 269-161.

House Republicans supported the bill 164-66, while House Democrats split evenly with 95 for and 95 against.

The bill includes an estimated $2.1 trillion in cuts over 10 years while raising the debt ceiling by that same amount in several stages. It also sets up a bipartisan committee that must recommend $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction. If Congress doesn't accept the committee's recommendations it must make its own deficit cuts by the end of the year.

The legislation would immediately raise the debt ceiling, now at $14.3 trillion, by more than $900 billion in return for capping discretionary spending and reducing budget deficits by $917 billion over 10 years, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Discretionary spending includes everything other than entitlement programs such as Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

It also would set up a 12-member committee of three Republicans and three Democrats from both the House and Senate to recommend additional deficit cuts over 10 years. These could include tax increases and entitlement programs. If the reductions are approved, the debt ceiling would be increased by the same amount.

The deal also calls for a vote on a balanced budget amendment. Tea party conservatives had wanted a debt ceiling increase to be contingent on passage of the amendment in both the House and the Senate.

Liberals and tea party conservatives rejected the controversial package that could lead to deep spending cuts to a host of agencies, including the Defense Department.

Many economists and government officials warned by defaulting on its obligations, the nation would roil global financial markets and lead to a downgrading of the country's stellar bond rating, a move that would increase interest payments the government must make.

Noem said the bill wasn't ideal but had to be done.

"I don't think anybody is thrilled with the bill that's in front of us," said Noem, who said it doesn't cut spending enough.

But with the federal government on the verge of running out of money, Noem said, something had to pass.

It "would be very detrimental if we didn't find a way to get past this Aug. 2 deadline," she said.

And despite her misgivings, Noem said she likes the spending cuts in the bill.

Most Republicans touted the plan as a victory of sorts, considering that while they run the House, Democrats control the Senate and the White House. Noem credited the large group of freshmen, she among them, who arrived in Washington in January on a mission to shrink the size of government.

"What would we be talking about now if we didn't have these 87 Republicans that came out here this year? We'd be talking about another stimulus package. We'd be talking about how much we're going to raises taxes. We'd be talking about things that would drive us into the ground," Noem said. "We've stopped that conversation. We've turned it around and we're going to have a vote on the balanced budget amendment. I think that's huge."

The bill now moves to the U.S. Senate, where Sen. Tim Johnson, D-S.D., supports the bill.

"I frankly would not have done it this way, but I think for the most part, it's a good compromise," Johnson said.

It's expected to pass in the Senate, with Johnson predicting it could collect as many as 75 votes.

Johnson isn't a big fan of the committee set up by the bill that must recommend $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction. He views that as something Congress should do, not pass off to a committee.

But Johnson said he is confident the triggered spending cuts will force Congress to act.

"It cuts deeply into defense and entitlements -- so deeply, in fact, that I doubt it ever occurs," Johnson said.

Republican Sen. John Thune is still reviewing the details of the plan but has concerns about the triggered spending cuts, spokesman Andi Fouberg said in an email late Monday afternoon.

The bill does not include a plan Thune helped broker which would provide more than $1 billion in debt reduction this year by abruptly ending a tax credit provided to corn-based ethanol blenders. The deal would have steered a portion of the savings from ending the credit for other smaller, targeted tax breaks to promote biofuels.

Gov. Dennis Daugaard is also still reviewing how the cuts will impact South Dakota, his spokesman, Tony Venhuizen said.

But Daugaard praised Congress for agreeing to raise the debt ceiling.

"I'm glad they were able to come to a deal on the debt ceiling," Daugaard said in a statement. "It's unfortunate that these deals emerge at the last minute because it creates great uncertainty for state governments."

Shad Olson, a tea party activist and radio host from Rapid City, said it was a deflating outcome because it doesn't prevent the country from sliding further into debt during the next decade.

"I think that they've been sold essentially a bill of goods," Olson said of the House Republicans. "I don't know which is more disturbing: the fact that a debt plan is arrived at that no one likes and does nothing, or the fact that there are some people who are inside the process who seem to think it's a victory for America."

The Sioux Falls Argus Leader contributed to this report

Contact David Montgomery at 394-8329 or david.montgomery@rapidcityjournal.com

 

 

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  1. oldsarge
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    oldsarge - August 02, 2011 8:12 am
    Noem saw that the ransom had been paid so she voted to release the hostage (USA). Simple as that.
  2. sdbluestem
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    sdbluestem - August 02, 2011 7:09 am
    Republicans won, but how? Uncontrollable first-term republican were willing to throw the country off the cliff.
  3. Observer
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    Observer - August 02, 2011 7:06 am
    BarrysColumn said: "Stupid is as stupid does. Really amazes me how misled we all all. Dems did, Repubs did it, welfare leaches are to blame, Teapubs are guilty. Wait. . .No, it is the Liberals. Gotta be. Yeah, whatever! It is always the blame game. Them against us. Our side is better. If we could actually compromise it wouldn't be this bad. There is no two parties. One party, two scripts. We have a corrupt fiat monetary system. We have money backed by air. We have powerful rich folks owning our government. A foreign policy that doesn't change with each election. THOSE PEOPLE just keep us distracted. Those people keep us mad at low level management. Noem is a lackey. Who is her boss? That is where the anger should be directed. This isn't about Dems are Repubs, liberal or conservative. It is about keeping us in dis-union. It is about us hating each other. They can't use the racial thing as much as they used to so they find other, better ways that make us think (or is that thunk?) how smart we are. Truth is we have more info at our fingertips than old granddad but we are not smarter. Just because CNN or Fox has sold us an opinion doesn't make us critical. We have lost our critical thinking skills. It is bad out there. Make no mistakes. We are being sold down river and unless we find a way to take back what is ours there is no stopping it. Quit the blame game. No one person in government (save a very few) really care about you or me. We are all stupid and we seriously need to wake up now."

    Read this, then read it again.
  4. pajamagrama
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    pajamagrama - August 02, 2011 5:07 am
    The big drain on our economy for the past decade are the wars. Enacting the Bush tax cuts when we were already committed to war in the Mideast was completely irresponsible. We had just barely gotten to a point at the end of the Clinton administration where we were no longer spending more than we were taking in. There was NOT a surplus as the politicians were telling us but we were at a point where we could pay the bills and pay down the debt without creating more debt. There was hope at that point for solvency. Once the decisions were made to #1 commit to war in the Mideast at enormous decades long expense and #2 to cut taxes at the same time, the economy was toast. The mess we are in now was completely predictable then-I predicted it myself and I am no genius financial guru. It was as foolish as a family surviving on minimum wage winning a million dollars and running out to buy a million dollar house-and then deciding that they really only need to work part-time. You can't increase spending and decrease income without making a mess. We are in one.
  5. MustBeKidding
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    MustBeKidding - August 02, 2011 5:01 am
    So, if Noem had voted No, 196th and Infidel would have accused her of holding the country hostage (a tiresome liberal talking point regarding this debacle). She votes yes and is a tool of big meany business.

    Noem (and Thune) could find a cure for cancer and 196th and his pals would find some way to marginalize it.

  6. BarrysColumn
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    BarrysColumn - August 02, 2011 12:15 am
    Stupid is as stupid does. Really amazes me how misled we all all. Dems did, Repubs did it, welfare leaches are to blame, Teapubs are guilty. Wait. . .No, it is the Liberals. Gotta be. Yeah, whatever! It is always the blame game. Them against us. Our side is better. If we could actually compromise it wouldn't be this bad. There is no two parties. One party, two scripts. We have a corrupt fiat monetary system. We have money backed by air. We have powerful rich folks owning our government. A foreign policy that doesn't change with each election. THOSE PEOPLE just keep us distracted. Those people keep us mad at low level management. Noem is a lackey. Who is her boss? That is where the anger should be directed. This isn't about Dems are Repubs, liberal or conservative. It is about keeping us in dis-union. It is about us hating each other. They can't use the racial thing as much as they used to so they find other, better ways that make us think (or is that thunk?) how smart we are. Truth is we have more info at our fingertips than old granddad but we are not smarter. Just because CNN or Fox has sold us an opinion doesn't make us critical. We have lost our critical thinking skills. It is bad out there. Make no mistakes. We are being sold down river and unless we find a way to take back what is ours there is no stopping it. Quit the blame game. No one person in government (save a very few) really care about you or me. We are all stupid and we seriously need to wake up now.
  7. archiejones
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    archiejones - August 01, 2011 9:22 pm
    Cutting spending is not going to improve the job situation here in the United States, if fact will probably make it worse. Where are the jobs that NOem and the teapubs promised?
  8. Lucius Vorenus
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    Lucius Vorenus - August 01, 2011 9:03 pm
    The insensate Congress and Owe-bama play kick the can until after the 2012 elections, and the citizenry will be penalized for another spending extravaganza by the improvident measures of the Federal Government.
  9. J--Man
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    J--Man - August 01, 2011 7:58 pm
    There are some basic truths in life. First, some useless people are politicians. Second, all politicians are useless. They say what you want to hear and then do as they please according to the big machine called Washington. Too bad it's impossible to find someone who will have the same backbone when they get to Washington as they seemed to have before they arrived.
  10. shunkaska
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    shunkaska - August 01, 2011 7:22 pm
    We had a chance to hit these welfare leaches in the butt, instead of working we have 20,00,000 illegals feeding their families who think these jobs are OK,these ADC, and other programs were supposed to be short term not 2-3 generations...Ross Perot had said if everyone pays 5% we would have more money than we know what to do with, yet my nephew is a union worker gets laid off although his parents told him to move in, or go to North Dakota and make 18-20 an hr in the oil fields..he chose to lay arround and hang out with his pregnant girlfriend and sign up for every program available...nice..We need to care for our elderly who have paid into this system, before welfare families took care of families we need to go back that way, we didn't have that percent that play this welfare program like a violin...As far as the ranchers subsidies, you recieve a dime of supplement we can hunt your land, and no one should recieve overe $100,000 in any yr...We created this mess, I hope we can fix it for my Grand Kids.....
  11. ripoff
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    ripoff - August 01, 2011 7:01 pm
    Big business puts everyone in business.
  12. 196thlightinfantry
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    196thlightinfantry - August 01, 2011 6:58 pm
    Ms. NOem was a yes. Funny stuff, now, we will see her cancel out her health care and forego her salary to help her state get along.
  13. ripoff
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    ripoff - August 01, 2011 6:58 pm
    I don't get it infidel, do you suggest that the US would be better off with a government in default and even further in debt? The mess we're currently in is what every sane person in this country has been screaming about since the messiah was elected in 2008...stop wasteful government spending! What have reid, pelosi, schumer and the (cough) president done about that?? Buying votes from the poor by feigning like you care about them is no way to run a country.
  14. Infidel
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    Infidel - August 01, 2011 6:20 pm
    NOem did as her big business owners directed her to do. I noticed that she didn't cut her health care and retirement as she threatened to do to the misled voters that elected her. Cuts are only for the voters and taxpayers, not welfare ranchers like her.
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